Who Knows This Cemetery

East of the East Branch westbound rest stop, driving east on NY 17.

I see this little cemetery every time I'm on my way home from visiting my father.

These are the google map coordinates.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/+mile+marker+295+hwy+17+East+Branch,+NY/@41.9969841,-75.1585406,117m/data=!3m1!1e3

The link doesn't seem to work so copy and paste those coordinates into google maps and it'll take you to the location, click on satellite, bottom left and you'll see this cemetery.

When you zoom out, you can see the RR tracks south of this and I can't see any road to this cemetery.

It's on the south side of NY 17 at mile marker 295.

Please let me know how to get to it. Thank you.

Horton Cemetery Cleanup

I said I would post pictures of what I did at the Horton Cemetery so here goes.  Let me know if this is confusing, it's a little confusing to me now, after the fact.

I visited the Horton Cemetery twice in the past few weeks, on the way home from visiting my father in the Oxford Veterans' Home.  I had thought there were relatives buried there and there are.

On the first visit, I walked the entire cemetery which was larger than I'd expected.  I found Aunt Dora Wormuth Emrich's grave (not sure that spelling is correct).  She was one of my grandmother's sisters.  I don't remember her but I'm pretty sure I met her when I was quite young and the reunions were still held at Shinhopple - with the 4 seater outhouse.

In view of my previous post about respect, I don't know who to ask permission for posting the following photos and names but, if anyone in the family wishes, I will remove both.

The first stone I found was a large Wormuth headstone, heavily shaded by a large, overgrown lilac bush.  The stone is also blackened with age and appears to be sandstone.

Then another large Wormuth headstone in front of which are flat stones for Clyde and Iona Wormuth who I am not familiar with but are in my database.  Clyde being the son of Henry Wormuth, a son of Joseph Wormuth.

I'm sorry, Blogger removed an easy way to organize these in a table so they line up nicely and I don't have the time to write the html to do that right now so the layout isn't what I would like.

As you can see this Wormuth stone is obscured by lichens, moss and blackening.  It's fairly typical of what happens over time.

This is my photo from this first visit, of Aunt Dora's stone.  I was in a hurry and didn't get the angle right so it's a little unclear.

Before that first visit, I had been reading about cemetery preservation and found an organization whose interest is just that.  They have a web site that gives advice and instructions and they even sell some of the cleansers they recommend.  These cleansers remove lichens, the blackening, but don't damage the stone.  They also recommend tools to use for various situations. They are one of a couple of new Links on my Links page.

https://cemeteryconservatorsunitedstandards.org/

Cemetery Conservators

So, on my second visit to the Horton Cemetery, I did a little work.  More needs to be done.  Here's the first Wormuth headstone with the lilac bush.

I was able to remove a lot of the blackening.  Because of the shading and my lousy phone camera, You can't see, very clearly, that there is a design above the name and on each side, but you can NOW see it in person.  Sandstone doesn't hold up well, over time.  It's porous and eventually washes away.  I believe the web site has solutions for that.

I did clean off Aunt Dora's headstone a little but it didn't need much, I just need to get the right angle for the carving to show more clearly.

The biggest improvement was to the other Wormuth stone but more work needs to be done.

Before

After

There's a lot of moss imbedded in the lettering.  I didn't have time or a toothbrush to get in there.  I think some kind of plastic (never metal), pointed implement would help.

The D/2 cleaner I used, and lots and lots of water, will prevent moss and lichens to grow for a while but the cleaning should be done from time to time.  You can find the cleansers on that web site.

Now to visit the Harvard Cemetery, the next visit.

New links on the Links page.

Respect

After some recent incidents, I have to write a little post about respect.

A lot of us are doing family history now.  A lot of us are posting family information online at various sites:  names, and dates and photos and documents and charts, etc.  Most of us do this without a lot of thought, without consulting with other family members.

We should stop doing this so casually.  We should think a little before doing this.

Years ago, I had a large family history site with all the above fully visible and available to anyone who passed by.  Then, someone close to one of my father's cousins contacted me and asked some questions about that part of the family and I shared information through emails.  Then, that person informed me that he had written and published something about his own family history and was working on something for his partner's family, my father's part of the family.

I had already been working well over a decade on the research, at the time, and did not intend to publish but I was irked that he thought I should supply him with family information that he might profit from.

Around the same time, I made contact with another individual, also from my father's side of the family and, almost immediately, found myself in conflict with him over the origins of the family.  I had little documentation about that and that was one of my goals in doing the research in the first place, to trace them back to their origins.  What he told me about the origins I could find no evidence of in what I had found and I told him that and asked what documentation he had found.  He was offended and the conflict began.  I'm sorry, I can't accept somebody's suppositions about family information, I need documentation.  So, we broke off communication, he was too offended.  The same happened with a 3rd cousin for the same reason, who had already published a book filled with spurious information in order to profit.

So, I took down my web site so the information was not so easily available.  I still share information, photos, etc. and I feel very strongly that I owe it to other family members to do so; it's not just my family.  But, I do it one on one, not open to the world.

More recently, data was posted online about members of a particular branch of the family by a family member who was unaware that that part of the family does not want their information online. The response I received when I so informed that individual was definitely disrespectful toward that part of the family who would take offense at their activities.  And yet, it's their prerogative that their family's information not be online and it's nobody else's business, nor is their opinion about that wish of any importance at all.  I was able, in this case, to edit the posted information, to erase all details, so family connections remain but who those family members are and their detailed information is hidden.  That's how genealogical software treats LIVING relatives in their various charts and reports.  It's about respecting privacy.

It is, I think, important to confine our posts and online disclosures to our own immediate branch of our families and not to forget that not everyone wants their family information online.

Just consider the implications of identity theft.

If you feel compelled to post related family branch's information, please ask that family first.

We are all unique individuals each with our own perceptions and ideas about what's good and what's not.  We all make mistakes.  So, it's reasonable to try to think before we act and react and to, at least, aim to be respectful of others and their wishes; those wishes being about the dissemination of information about other family members and their families.  Other wishes; that's another matter, not to be addressed here and now.